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journalists opposition candidates and
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to replace outgoing President Joseph Kabila
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Friday said he's extremely worried about
former u.s. Marine Paul Whelan a dual u.s.

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U.k.

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Citizen who has been detained in Russia on
espionage charges saying individuals should

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not be used as pawns of diplomatic leverage
I'm Nicole live this the oh I knew

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whose.

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Pitch Forder crossings with
Larry London from the l.a.

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Line. This is Larry London welcome to
border crossings and on today's show we

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welcome our music's to our into our lives
for the next hour a guy who along with

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a couple of other guys formed a
great rock band back in the 1970 s.

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And I'm referring to 3 Dog Night and Danny
Hutton Corey wells and shut Negron went

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on to sell millions of records millions of
platinum selling records big hits number

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one songs touring the world and that we've
got Chuck Negron joining us for today's

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border crossing so stick around.

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Them good.

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This is for the voice of American on
the phone we have a true music icon

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a guy who's been doing this for

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a few years let's say we'd like to welcome
one of the 3 members of one of the great

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groups from the seventy's and early eighty's
Chuck Negron to the Voice of America

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Chuck welcome thank you for having me it's
great to have you and I guess it's not

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just the seventy's you guys started as

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a band as Redwood in the sixty's didn't
you Yeah well actually I started in the

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fifty's with when I was 15 years old

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a group called the rundowns and played the
Apollo you know did shows all over New

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York and and Anyway so here and then
in the sixty's. I made records for

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Hartford and records and
then Columbia Records

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a lot of some common records under the name
Chuck from down you know and then Danny

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was making

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a solo record of course it was making records
liberally enemies and so for us yeah

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then we Brian Wilson produced
his Redwood. Time to get

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a loan and darling and so he had so we you
know we've been around operative wasn't

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68 1st number one. Record was the 1st the
one directors in 69 but our 1st hit Try

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a Little Tenderness was in 68 now we're
talking with Chuck Negron from 3 Dog Night

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and of course he's had

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a very successful solo career as well
with 9 records 5 singles 9 albums and it

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along the way 3 Dog Night earned 12 gold
albums and 21 consecutive Billboard Top 40

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hits 7 of which were gold now it all came
to an end at some point I guess you guys

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were on the road and what was it that ended
this relationship why did 3 Dog Night

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decide we've had enough well you know it
was just it was you know just too much

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work by the way it was 1212 gold
Abas because they didn't have

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a platinum award right now soon as they
they had the plan and what all those albums

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of platinum so we have 12 platinum albums
12 platinum albums now and actually it's

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is more I think this 15 that because they
have you know all these rereleases and

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was in this several that that were like
you know songs from The Big Chill was

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a platinum album which we know we were on
and Gump was the platinum which we were

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on would you know we get so this you know
so it's nice what happened it was just

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for me relentlessly on making 2 records

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a year and and touring $200.00 days you
know and it was too much I mean you know

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when you're young it's fine but after 4
years of doing that you know $89.00 albums

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and you know and in the touring you getting
bigger and bigger and just you actually

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during more because so much money is being
made you know we just burnt ourselves

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out we just you know we just burnt out
and the you know the managers didn't

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have any long term plan they you know they
were is choosing the suits and you know

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they did this they were in it because you
know get what they can before these guys

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burn out and rock and roll over you know
so you know so they had there was no long

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term plan and so they would you know
killing us and they didn't realise that we

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were just in

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a want to for another we didn't stop.
So finally we literally kind of self

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destructive because we just couldn't do it
anymore you know I mean if we would have

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taken

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a year or so off like these people do now
through the night could still be working

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you know I mean if you know that the 2
albums years that do you know do and I'm

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every 2 or 3 years you know. But anyway
that's what have we did it was it was too

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much that's

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a big difference in the business from when
you guys were starting off and and cook

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and in the seventy's to what it is today
you work with some of the biggest

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songwriters in music Paul Williams back in
the time Harry Nilsson Randy Newman Did

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you write your own music too you know you
yes you know we had tunes on our on our

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albums that you know that we wrote we want
to we would have done more writing if it

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wasn't such

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a difficult process because you know it
caused tension of course fighting there was

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a lot of egos you know that one and one guy
to do more than another guy you know so

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you know that the process for picking songs
was well you know the really scrutinize

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and you know guys just ended up not being
one not wanting to do it so we found

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these writings that we were working with
and we were we found them you know I mean

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you know Randy Newman No one even knew
him when we went I mean he had ad couple

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albums out but he'd had any success
that when we did in 68 we did

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a song called that no one ever hurts they
have Iran you know then of course Mama

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told me not to not to come which was and
the morning and Karen us and you know they

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didn't even put one out until we had

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a hit with and then they try to compete
with us before that you know the only hit

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he had was everybody's
talking which was his to.

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Show where he will surely. Be
challenging your wish list.

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Border crossings with Larry London on fuel

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a walk. You're

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listening to border crossings and we are
talking with Chuck next you know Lauren

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you were with me from the same
neighborhood you know where you've lived

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a little bit away from me the so you know
now. I did get in touch on that song I

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wrote that song to Cory and you know Paul
made demos and the studio that we work

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that's so you know had

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a connection with him and he was
we did the 1st song full of

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a wrote and it's and the music and it's

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a totally. You know we
we help him be become

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a really big writer because they were not
letting him do his own thing they wanted

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him to work you know in the teams with the
different teams he was working and Jack

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Conrad who just passed away and and some
other writers and you know I I picked the

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song you know I'll pass

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a lot of sun that he will completely really
broke him with the publishers they said

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oh this guy can do it on his own so you
know just good ears and and thankfully

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there were

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a lot of talented people out there we
toured point Axton I don't know how we got

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hooked up with

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a management company but they since he
was they had him open for us I mean he

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really should not vote
for a rock band he was

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a rock artist but he was great and he was
he was great so we introduced him and he

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started playing playing songs for us and
that's how I got joy to the world and the

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band to turn it down he played for me again
I said I think it's great but anyway

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and him and Corey were
fission and he said I wrote

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a new song and it was never been

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a span of course and I'm on record right
now so you know so we were out there and

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now John we did the 1st Elton John song
no one of every quarter Don't you know we

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heard

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a song he'd recorded lady Samantha and we
did it on our 2nd album in 1968 so when

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we went to London Elton brought all his new
material which was you know. Your Song

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and taken

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a pilot you know we just we heard his stuff
we said you know what I don't think we

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can do

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a better. Let's leave it alone. It's

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border crossing on the way one.

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Plane.

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This is some promising.

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News. But. There's

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a. Long

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To meet.

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With.

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The.

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Mummie. Slow.

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Slow slow.

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Slow I'm.

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Loving. The I'm.

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Told.

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I'm up.

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It's border crossings and on the phones
with us from California today we've got

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a former member of 3 Dog
Night Chuck next. To.

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You see.

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Where.

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We've got on the phone and he's talking
to us from California we're going to talk

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about

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a book you just put out but before I get
to that you mentioned earlier about you

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know the guys and the music and maybe that
will continue to release music I read

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somewhere where there was some new 3 Dog
Night Music that might yet still come out

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soon that hadn't been released before that
the plan for 20. Oh no it's out it's out

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Ok it's what news is once it's
I have a record that I put out

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a couple months back it's called generations
and it's me with my 2 daughters my 2

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youngest daughters Annabel and Charlotte
and. They're single with me and on that

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record there are 3 unreleased records that
3 Dog Night did in the seventy's take me

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as

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a pilot you're not take me to metal but
you're just as your captain calling Save our

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ship and the letter and there's 3 of you
never really songs that are on this this

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generation's record of of me it's under
the name Negron not chopped egg or under

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snow grown so you know you know so there
was those songs and they were already out

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and the reason I got to put them out was
because these went through Doug I was

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really big I made

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a deal with the record company when they
thought it was always Ok you know going to

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be over that we could keep our masters from
that day on and they said yes and then

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we did 7 more albums so put those
3 songs on those 7 albums.

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Or 3rd.

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You are.

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Huge.

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It is

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literally.

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Your.

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I've

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I've

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.

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I've.

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I've.

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I've.

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I've.

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I've.

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I've.

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I've.

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Bought her crossings with Larry
London on fuel way what.

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Does the. Car.

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I've. I've.

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Let me.

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Explain the lead.

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To go.

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You're listening to border crossings and
we are talking with Chuck net right so you

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know is there

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a chance that you and Danny might get
together again and do some performances or

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recording or anything or is that behind you
now you know what you know but you know

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you know what I'll be honest you never know
what happens something comes up someone

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has an idea that you that is it that you
do something but I don't know I really I

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really don't see it because. You know
it's not true don't write you know write

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cannot be won I'm doing is me it's me
singing the songs I sang and everything so

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it's you know it's you know you're getting
what you got but you know to go in there

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and you know. It just wouldn't feel right
me and Danny you know what I mean what

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out the guys right now I just it's just
you know it would be a step back not

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a step forward Ok what I'm referring to of
course Cory Wells was also one of 3 dog

00:38:05
night passed away in 2015 we have Chuck
Negron on the phone with us right now

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a basketball that was

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a big part of your life now and. Point
you probably thought about being

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a professional basketball player before all
this music stuff happens well you know

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I mean it would I did but you know not it
wasn't something I I thought would happen

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but I knew I was going to go play college
ball because I was and also the best

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player in New York so I would I would you
know I was good and known so you know I

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would get down to Harlem and they had

00:38:34
a Rutgers park where every all the greatest
players in New York played in and the

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n.b.a.

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Played you know you know I go down and
play with these guys and I knew there's

00:38:43
a whole nother level you know that I could
compete with them and you because I had

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a great shot you know but I'm talking
about guys who are faster than me. 2 feet

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bigger than me right right and
stronger than me and I want this is

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a whole nother level so I knew I
wasn't but I do in the college game as

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a guard I fit your shooting I don't fit
right in the summer is good you know so you

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know so I want to play college basketball
and then the my junior year I signed with

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Columbia Records because you know I was
singing making records all through college

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when I wasn't playing ball when I was playing
ball and finally Columbia Records So

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I mean which is the biggest company in the
world you know and so they told me look

00:39:28
ill even college. Or you leave you leave
in Colombia you not do about this

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business you know we've got people knocking
on the all day long they're coming in

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here begging for and
here you have a you have

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a great record deal and you
can't make as you have

00:39:44
a basketball game with crazy that's why
he said it's and I said you know what

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you're right you're right I will you got
it and I said I just finished the year it

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was in the safe Ok that was the last
game I told on the last game was Mark

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something and he said I want to see the
following week and I showed up and I

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learned

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a lesson not only what he said was was was
true but you can't have your cake and

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eat it when you're working with
business people who you make

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a deal with and they expect you to honor
that deal because they're spending money

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and you know and I found out another thing
the glow they had when they signed me

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was really tarnished because they
you know they I was the next is

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exciting to them as I was when they were
initially excited I waited you know I made

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a mistake so. You know I didn't get the
action that I you know that I would have if

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I would have done right away when everyone
was hot on me so you know you learn

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a lot you learn

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a lot less you can like you say I can
educate can you write we've got to actually

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check Negron is with us and I want to talk
about the new book Now you actually it's

00:40:55
a ongoing story I guess this is the I don't
know what generation what issue this is

00:41:00
9 or 10 or 11 of this book that started
on 999 yeah I think it's 44 Ok 3 Actually

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it's only been 2 updates of the
12 chapters were done in the

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the early 2000 to 2001 to

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a thread of some 12 to 12 new chapters were
done is because the story continues not

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just my story through the line I mean you
know perspectives and everything here and

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then the 3rd edition was the same thing
just 100 pictures. No change but 100

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pictures the fall off edition I wrote

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a leaven more chapters and we keep we
kept 100 pictures so you know it's quite

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a big focus now and it's but it's good
that the new chapters the chapters of Cory

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going over my relationship you know with
Korean and Jimmy Green's flu passed away

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and he was my best man at my wedding and
you know my story with him and I have

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a twin sister and she passed
away from cancer and it's

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a story about her and there's

00:41:59
a story about how 3 Dog Night the Day 3 Dog
Night and I and I said we got together

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and is it different perspectives on all
different things that happened because it's

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you know a lifetime ago I you know I'm

00:42:12
a gun I'm an adult now and so it's just
you know look and plus I'm sober you know

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I've been sober 26 years so just looking
at things differently now that's what I

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wrote about and you mentioned your twin
sister Nancy you 2 were in an orphanage

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a little while when you were kids my mother
was very young and my father and her

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left I mean you know they could they couldn't
you know this could make it very hard

00:42:35
we were often edge and
you. It was a it was

00:42:38
a difficult time but we you know we made
it through with a tough and actually

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a chapter on that kind of

00:42:45
a very touchy tough situation that
happened while law I was in the often age

00:42:52
you know stuff I saw and was afraid.
You know often just back then.

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Most of the people were great it was the
late forty's 49 to 50 you know so most of

00:43:05
people grow but then there was also

00:43:07
a feel for pedophile use of the files I
mean and we did have one that unfortunately

00:43:13
. You know I wasn't involved with
some of the older boys were it was

00:43:18
a terrible thing to be around right
I can imagine Chuck Negron wrote

00:43:22
a book it's about himself and his life and
his stories it's called 3 dog night mare

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the check Negron story it's

00:43:28
a now out and available it went on
sale in December so explain to me how

00:43:33
a millionaire ends up living in a
cardboard box but I wasn't living in

00:43:36
a cardboard box what it was was I would go
down town and cop drugs and I didn't you

00:43:43
know be sick in withdrawal so I didn't
want to wait to get home or go you know I

00:43:48
was staying with friends so I there was

00:43:51
a see you know almost guy that I knew and
I would go over his place and he lives

00:43:55
with

00:43:55
a cardboard box and I you know I get high
in there and there were times I just sleep

00:44:00
there you know and it was
a time where I stayed

00:44:03
a couple of days because I was you
know this had to happen to have

00:44:05
a lot of drugs and just didn't leave. You
know so that's you know that's what that

00:44:11
was but I did live with
that with another guy for

00:44:13
a while in an abandoned building
so you know it was rough it was

00:44:16
a it was you know not it was
a terrible way to spend

00:44:20
a life and I also read where you had gone
in and how of 30 different drug treatment

00:44:26
centers over 13 years I want to
to through 37 rehabs. You know

00:44:32
sometimes try to get sober sometimes just
trying to get the pressure off me from.

00:44:37
My peers and my family and eventually
in 9091. I got clean Wow So

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all of this was going on while you were

00:44:46
a mega superstar in 3 dog night
when the 103 dog night I was

00:44:51
a the beginning of my drug use and actually
I was using drugs towards the middle of

00:44:57
and the end of 3 dog night but I you know
I said I still was functioning I mean I

00:45:02
gave them their last 1000000 seller with
the show must go on and then the very last

00:45:08
record that we didn't do any harm was
already had been fired and Joe Sherry was

00:45:13
fired and then you know actually none of
the band Floyd was gone Joe was gone I was

00:45:18
just Jimi Greenstone Corey and I and I
made the last record til the world ends

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a tell you know it was

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a I think an easy listening was
number 9 and Billboard It was number

00:45:30
3036 or something like that so you know I
was there from the beginning to the end

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but in the eighty's when we got back together
you know all those years off you know

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I became

00:45:41
a raving drug addict and when they got
that want to come back together I should

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never done it because I you know I was
unable to do it and so that's one of the

00:45:50
problems you know so far as with the
band and I eventually had to leave I can

00:45:54
imagine if somebody comes up to you must've
had many people that say you inspired

00:45:57
me you touched me I'm alive because of
you because of your book because of your

00:46:02
story because of your success that that
must make you feel pretty good well you

00:46:07
know it's wonderful that this book what
I wanted it to do and what that book is

00:46:11
this book brutally honest I mean it
really can't the terrible life on

00:46:17
a drug addict and what being

00:46:18
a drug and anyone who recently got caught
I don't want to do that you know that it

00:46:24
has helped a lot of people is

00:46:25
a part of many rehab centers course
of work I mean that they use the book

00:46:32
in these rehabs. They're every have that
have people come in and. And read chapters

00:46:40
to the staff and you know the staff you
know it's like well I didn't even notice

00:46:44
all these different uses of the book I've
found them less several years but you

00:46:49
know so this new chapter of them how I'm
hoping will you know add more interest you

00:46:55
know and help more more
people and I'm sure that as

00:46:58
a father you gave your children advice and
now probably perhaps I don't know I I

00:47:03
for sure I'm guessing assuming you have
grandchildren that you're probably giving

00:47:06
them advice too as well well you know I'm
really haven't said anything to you know

00:47:12
my grandchildren. Sean is
17 but he's the oldest

00:47:19
and he you know he's been you
know doing fine rests on

00:47:22
a little too young. You know so it's
nothing I would bring up you know

00:47:29
bring up yet so aren't you afraid they're
going to know about this I mean you're

00:47:33
you're

00:47:33
a high profile person you're not you it's
hard to keep this stuff secret what they

00:47:37
don't know they don't know I have a book

00:47:39
a book that they're not allowed to read
Oh Ok. What are the grandkids called you

00:47:45
you got a nickname Poppy Poppy
All right we're talking with

00:47:49
a poppy check on who's
with us just released

00:47:52
a book in December of 3 dog night mare
which is an appropriate name for the the

00:47:58
content of the book because certainly there's
been some great moments high moments

00:48:01
wonderful moments for for the band who
were so influential in the development of

00:48:05
rock music back in the early
days in the seventy's when Rock

00:48:08
n roll was just you know
taking root on f.m.

00:48:11
Radio and of course they played

00:48:13
a big role in influencing many other
musicians but Chuck Negron himself has gone

00:48:17
through a very very shall we say
challenging life there's been

00:48:21
a lot of things and you contemplated death
at one point is that what I read well.

00:48:27
You know suicide in the sense that it was
you know what terrible I was so terribly

00:48:33
sick from with withdrawals and you know
I just want to die. You know and then I

00:48:40
was going I was going to. Go on to
my probation officer and he told me

00:48:47
on the way and he said if your test is
dirty you're going to jail and then you're

00:48:50
going to prison and my guts to tell me I
can't believe I can't believe I got you

00:48:54
you guys usually get away you know so
like me at all so I knew it was dirty

00:49:01
and on the way over odds walking from robust
and that is I don't want to go to jail

00:49:06
yeah and luckily the guys stopped just kind
of bumped me not me down. Could so and

00:49:12
I went What are you doing you know I
want to take this is I want to tell you

00:49:16
something this is I mean it's not
appropriate don't use it but. There was

00:49:21
a guy I met in recovery years later and
that day I didn't go to I didn't go to my

00:49:28
to my appointment I said I want to go to
jail and then and then you couldn't get

00:49:33
through and they would call and say we'll
get back to you and I didn't have the 4

00:49:36
months and then the coverage I met this
guy and he heard my story and he said you

00:49:42
know you're not going to believe that I'm
not as safe as you and I said why I said

00:49:45
I was in the same situation you are
in vibrant the building down. Oh my

00:49:52
gosh this is that's that's why you
didn't hear from them or records

00:49:57
a lawsuit even though to call. Well you
know we're very very lucky you've turned us

00:50:04
all around now have you ever
thought about turning this into

00:50:07
a movie I mean this would make
a great movie or you know want

00:50:10
a New Line Cinema want to do an h.b.o.

00:50:12
Want to do it and you know when
the 1st book came out it was

00:50:15
a bestseller and I was working on the movie
and everything and then my wife at the

00:50:19
time she disciplines I don't want this as

00:50:22
a movie I mean not just I don't want our
story out there I just don't want to and

00:50:26
she was my wife so I did it now you know
when I was divorced and you know what we

00:50:30
have

00:50:30
a daughter and we're friends but still you
know once you don't strike when the iron's

00:50:34
hot the line goes cold not fit so I just
kind of. I had to wait now for someone

00:50:39
I've had people come over the years want
to extreme plays and stuff like that but

00:50:44
you know some of us going to have to do it
and then bring it to the studio so this

00:50:49
is a good story it's a great
read so I'm sure it would make

00:50:52
a great movie how do you want to play
God I can't even think that there was

00:50:57
a young guy in. My twenty's. You never
know you never know all the all the ones

00:51:03
that are coming up so check on the phone
with us right now and if people want to

00:51:07
get in touch with you if they want to
reach out to Facebook and Twitter and all

00:51:10
that Facebook I want to Twitter
too much but you know I have

00:51:14
a bunch up my ground. And I am on Facebook
Yes All right so people should reach out

00:51:20
to you and look forward to more great 3
dog night mare the story and some great

00:51:26
music that's still coming out the pleasure
to talk to you and you know. Times over

00:51:32
the years and it's you know you guys are
certainly inspiration to me and the music

00:51:38
is touch my life in many different ways and
we worked together several times but I

00:51:41
never really got much of a
chance to talk to you so this is

00:51:43
a wonderful opportunity and thank you so
much for being of America thank you for

00:51:47
saying so.

00:52:41
This.

00:55:15
Well thank you very much Chuck Negron What
a pleasure to talk to you and to hear

00:55:20
a little bit more about the story behind
the man and quite an interesting story

00:55:25
painful story at times 3 dog night mare
the Chuck Negron story the name of his

00:55:30
latest autobiography which is now available
and again thank you to Chuck Negron for

00:55:35
joining us today on border crossings and
thank you very much for listening thanks

00:55:40
to Vince our director and to Wagner our
producer I'm Larry London and we'll see

00:55:45
a real suit with more border
crossings right here on the v.o.a.

00:55:48
One music network.

00:56:06
This is appealing to you and it's
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00:56:11
Government shutdown approaches its 3rd
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00:56:16
again today in a bid to end the
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00:56:20
Washington correspondent Saager Magon he
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00:56:24
situation room comes after the new House
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00:56:29
end the shutdown without giving the president
money he wants for his border wall

00:56:33
spokeswoman Sara Sanders says he's not
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00:56:38
negotiate from the beginning but he is not
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00:56:43
the safety of the American people at
risk but there are signs of g.o.p.

00:56:47
On some senators up for reelection next
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fund the government there leader of
those says the House passed bills are

00:56:56
nonstarters less the
president backs them Saugor

00:57:00
a bag on the at the White House the
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00:57:04
President Trump has faced an opposition
party in power following 2 years of

00:57:08
complete Republican control of the
government 800000 federal workers have been

00:57:13
furloughed or are working without pay Mexico
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